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BRACKET 2 REACTION THREAD

TheHopper

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Thanks to all who judged, wrote and got the sucker out....it is greatly appreciated.


Now....what do we think folks?


Also....how about the lucky loser being chosen even before all the winners/losers from other brackets have been discerned?
 

Seymour Almasy

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Thanks to all who judged, wrote and got the sucker out....it is greatly appreciated.


Now....what do we think folks?


Also....how about the lucky loser being chosen even before all the winners/losers from other brackets have been discerned?

Best I can tell, the judging results are in for ALL brackets already, it's just the show writeups that take time, so they're able to determine the Lucky Loser.
 

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Round 2 pretty much unfolded as anticipated in my bracket, with the exceptions of Tact and Murray winning. No problem with Tact winning a close on there - didn't quite think Murray/Stevens was as close as you all thought it was, but Jay left the door open enough for Murray to sneak through I guess. Very glad to see Stevens save face in a controversial loss that allows him to remain in the tournament. This is bad news for bracket 1, because I guaran-damn-tee you Stevens is going to catch fire and come for people's heads the rest of the way through.

I'm looking forward to the two of us violating our respective brackets like a gullible college girl off Craig's List and meeting in the Final Four.

Also: I'm STILL a mark for Christopher Ryan Eagles! Stay on FWC, bro! You're like the one new person I like.
 

Ernie

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I think it's anti-climactic to name the lucky loser already, but with Round 2 RP starting and the slot needing to be filled, I guess it's kind of the only way it could work anyway.

Congrats to Sean Stevens on winning Lucky Loser. I had you winning vs. Jason Murray on my bracket though. Way to let me down, Triple X, way to let me down. :(

The card was good though and I like the angle they used for naming the Lucky Loser. No problem with Stevens winning it. Just it's all a bit anti-climactic.

Tact did me proud. I had him and Chris Hopper squaring off in round 2. Chris - Tact will give you all you can handle and then some if he's on his game. But good luck. I think this should be a great round two matchup.

I liked the line about it being Max Hopper vs. Howard the Duck. Now I need to do that match somewhere.

I did pretty well. 12/16. Stevens and Ryan losing have obliterated my bracket though. I'm in dire straits now, and I don't mean the "Money for Nothin'" kind!

Anyway good job to everyone for their RPs and good job to the people who wrote the card.

I can't wait to see brackets 3 and 4.
 

Chad

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Best I can tell, the judging results are in for ALL brackets already, it's just the show writeups that take time, so they're able to determine the Lucky Loser.

Yep, you're right. Seems a bit counterintuitive to folks I know, given that Brackets 3 and 4 are still to go up this week.

Just so everyone's clear on the "Lucky Loser" decision, here's how it basically went: After roleplay periods were finished and almost all judges votes were in for Round 4 I created a list of "close" matches. The judges weren't told who won (except Bracket 1, which they had seen) and were asked to vote on their top three picks for the Lucky Loser. Silly me didn't include Zero/Hollywood in the original poll -- blame it as a Freudian slip after hearing all the hoopla about it. The Murray/Stevens match was the clear winner in the original poll, so the judges were asked to vote on it and the Zero/Hollywood match. Thus, Stevens got the Lucky Loser pass.
 

Chad

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Bracket 2 judges were Warren, Brunk, Holzerman, Ford and Dusty. Just so you know who to direct your venom at. ;)
 

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I (& in case you don't know, I'm Warren) will be posting my thoughts as to why I voted the way I wanted, but not until I hear whether we'll have another podcast discussing the same thing (as w/ bracket 1).

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Chris Eagles

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Can I just ask the judges if me using Derrick Allen without asking was taken into it, if so. What did they think without that issue?
 

Justin

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I can go ahead and vouch for the judges that that was the dealbreaker.

It's not even a maybe, that's the first rule of every efed I've ever seen.

However, I understand that TWOstars is an angle fed, and you're used to being able to work a different style.
 

Ernie

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TWOStars used to be an angle fed. They switched to RP earlier this year, but they do their RPs where people write segments to go on the show and then they put the one that wins on the air. So you write your RP either like a confrontation or a promo in the arena or whatever.

That being said, when I used to run RP feds I would actually list that in my rules (no killing anyone/using other people's characters without their permission), as would other fedheads. What once was a written rule has since become an unwritten rule in many feds. Unfortunately, Chris Eagles didn't know this as TWOStars has a different way of doing things. :(

I do hope that there is another UltraTitle next year or in the years to come and that Eagles comes to that one along with some other TWOStars guys. They're a great fed and I think now that Eagles knows what nobody bothered to tell him, he and any of the rest of the TWOStars gang could do well in a future tournament.

CRE, tell Randy Roko I said hi. :)
 

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I CALL COMPLETE AND UTTER BULLSH*T!!!!Just kidding. Congrats to Jason Murray's handler. Fantastic job. :)
 

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Chris - seriously bro. Come take a look at IGC because we'd love to have you take a shot at becoming the champ!
 

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This is my original notes to Chad, though I've added a bit more for clarity to the general populace. This is just MY votes, and obviously didn't always lead to who won the match. Finally, I warn you that I wrote these right as I read the RP. I waited until the deadline was over and read in a few sittings. My responses were immediate. Finally, please be cognizant that I judged half the matches - which is 32 RP threads (minus the jobbers and no-shows). That's a LOT! Keeping all my data straight may be problematic so if I get a bit confused, especially if I call in to the podcast, some grace would be appreciated.

Warren's votes -

Too Cool Chris Hopper vs. Howard King
Howard King 6-4. They were pretty equal but King has an interesting gimmick that he pulled off well. The only real weakness I felt was in Hopper's thing was the "Batcave" type setting on Cool's last promo - it just didn't work for me. That one ding and King pulling off his gimmick put King over in my eyes.

Larry Tact vs. Derek Martin
5-5 Derek Martin. Probably the 2nd toughest in this grouping. I loved Tact's concept and execution, but Derek hadnled his well and had a great angle. I thought the last RP put Derek over, but just barely. This was TOUGH TOUGH TOUGH!

Pete Whealdon vs. Gideon
5-5 Pete Whealdon - Classic funny bad guy. Some of the asides were a bit much, but even though they were over the top, I still had to laugh at the absurdity of it all. With Gideon, I had a hard time following Gideon's initial RP writing. However, I loved the Gideon character and would've put him over w/o the initial weakness. I know the writer was taking a gamble, but w/ me, those types of gambles don't work because it all reads as gobbleygook. Kudos for the attempt and this character is, quite possibly, my favorite of all the "losers". Gideon's 2nd RP could've taken ANYONE in this tournament, including...

Jason Murray vs. Sean Stevens
5-5 Jason Murray - This was TOUGH! Stevens did what I knew he could do, but Murray sucked me in IMMEDIATELY. To add to his strengths, I also have to share that I *HATE* the gimmick. It's tried and boring and one of those that I roll my eyes EVERY time I see it. Except that it was done SO well - I actually care about this punk, jerk - kudos to the handler. With all that said, I still had it as a dead heat. What put me over? Nothing more than a willingness to go first and take it straight to Stevens - one of the best in the game. That takes guts!

Classy Mike C vs. Johnny Niles
6-4 Mike C over Niles - With Niles, I hated the reporter usage and it seemed to lack the ability to garner a reaction from me. The reporter is one of my most hated RP tactics, only because it is always so hackneyed. Can it be done well? Sure, but it's frequently less than a talking head reading from cue cards - they rarely appear "real". Mike C was good enough to take this matchup, but he'll need to crank it up a few more notches to survive what I expect from Spooky Doom.

Leyanda de Ocho vs. "Canadian Wolf"
Alex Leblanc 6-4 - I thought Ocho did well but he had reporters (see above). At least give them a freaking NAME! He did do a touch better, at least having them talk amongst themselves prior to the "OCHO OCHO" opening that made me roll my eyes. These are wrestling reporters. Does anyone know anything about wrestling mags and dirt sheets? They don't NEED a story - they friggin' make it up! It's like the Weekly World News w/ real people... running around in their underwear... under the lights... before getting hit by chairs. Anyway, playing a reporter straight just KILLS me. I liked Alex's style and though it was your typical cool heel, he pulled it off pretty well.

Derek Allen vs. Christopher Allen Eagle
Derek Allen 7-3 - I'm going to ignore the broken and unwritten rule because, even without it, he would've lost. In the first RP, Eagle started a storyline, or seemed to, but didn't do anything w/ it, changing his tact in that infamous 2nd RP. They were very disjointed IMO and that was a larger mark (hence the 7-3) than even breaking that rule. I know the WWE does a lot of stories that start but never actually go anywhere, but in this, it would help to connect. On another note, if someone makes it to Rd. 2 and they can build off what they've already said and done - awesome. However, be sure to give us judges (and the readers!) the courtesy of refreshing our memory, either through a quick "info dump" or through dialogue. Derek Allen seemed strong and though I would've personally sold the "beating", at least more than he did w/ the "hiring actors", I thought he handled the character well. But tell me how funny it would've been to open w/ Derek talking about how the doctors haven't cleared him to wrestle and he doesn't know if he can make it, then as the RP goes along peeling the makeup off to reveal one ticked off Mr. Allen!

Doc Silver vs. Erik Mateo
7-3 Doc cause... I couldn't un-dher-sthahnd wut E-rek wuz sah-yhun. This cost Erik in the same way it cost Gideon. At least give us a translation, which might be hilarious (especially if sometimes the translator screws up the translation)! Doc Silver was solid, and given this is my first foray into the character (even though I've heard a lot about him), I'm thinking he's going to be a tough one for anyone to beat!

Sergeant vs. Gemini
6-4 Sergeant. I would've liked more from Gemini but Sarge just had stronger writing. I couldn't really get a grasp on Gemini, which might be because it was likely the 5th or 6th grouping I'd read or because I expected something different (Gemini is the freak w/ the funky arm, right?) It didn't come across as he read like anyone else - even people's reactions to him were normal. For such a unique concept, it would've been awesome to see this played up more, especially in these initial offerings.

Sammy Brown vs. Cyanide Harvey
6-4 Sammy Brown. Ugh - another generic reporter. To these handlers defense, I'm sure they don't realize how many other people are doing the same schtick, but if I hated this tactic before, I'm overwhelmed by so many nameless reporters. Cyanide's RP didn't really give me a good view of the character. Sammy's went much better and he could've probably scored higher, but he waited WAY late to post. That didn't given Harvey a chance to "come back" and if his work had been a bit weaker (or maybe even if Cyanide did something other than a reporter), it could've cost Brown the match in my eyes. I promise in Rd. 2, w/ the skill level ever going up, this'll be a cardinal sin punishable by... well, nothing beyond my vote going the other way, but you get the idea.

Castor Stife vs. Jaguar
10-0 Castor

Eddie Whisky vs. Chris Walker
10-0 Eddie Whisky
 

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