One Month V.3 Feedback

[jediPREZ]

So, we've had 3 house shows/1 month of RP since July 27th and the world didn't implode upon itself.

1) Anything you'd like to say about RPs?

2) Anything you'd like to say about the house shows?

3) Anything you think would encourage more matchwriting from the roster?

4) How am I going to get you National Championship hopefuls to book your own matches?

5) What would you like to see on the new website that we didn't have last go-around?

6) Anything in seriousness that you feel NFW needs, or could use?




As always, the response to these surveys will somewhat impact my booking preferences.

 

[The Guy]

I'm going to be honest, I'm completely disappointed with my lack of effort thus far here. And I just can't pin point what it is. I just now sat down to write a roleplay for Southern Baptist Coalition for their match when I noticed I completely missed the deadline for roleplays and the match has already aired. There has been three shows and I haven't did a single segment for my team yet, despite already knowing well ahead of time the segments I wanted to do with them. But for whatever reason, I'm just having trouble getting into NFW in comparison to last season (which is odd because I have twice as many ideas for SBC as I did with Guy).

Part of the reason, for me, is because last season I was so dead set on coming in and chasing after Angelo Deville. Even though he left like two weeks after I entered, by that time I was already in an angle and had stuff to do. Now as much as I hate to say it, there isn't really a single person on the roster I want to go after that motivates me to bust my ass.

Reading that back, I realize it is a cop out thing to say, but I honestly can't figure out why I'm not motivated with NFW but am active in all my other efeds.

 

[RStrawsma]

1) Anything you'd like to say about RPs?

Those that I've read have been enjoyable thus far. There seems to be a nice balance between story and promo style RPs, as well as serious and comical substance. The non-designated thread style that I'm used to really gives me an opportunity to notice whenever somebody posts, and I'm more likely to read that RP. On the other hand, it makes things terribly unorganized, though I feel I can live with that.

2) Anything you'd like to say about the house shows?

I like the style of narrative writing that comes off more as a first-hand review (like from a reporter) as opposed to the traditional "this happens, then that happens". It gives the shows a lot of depth, considering it comes from a POV. It's like having commentary without commentary.

One thing I felt like bringing up... I wasn't very sure what merited my character, Rocko Daymon, a shoddy performance at the latest house show (considering I did RP for the match). I didn't know if this was a response for something I might have done wrong, or just the biased opinion of Sean Toombs, but it left me scratching my head.

3) Anything you think would encourage more matchwriting from the roster?

Threatening not to do house shows unless somebody volunteers was a good idea, I think.

I'm sad to say that I can't contribute much myself, practically being a full-time writer for at least three other federations.

4) How am I going to get you National Championship hopefuls to book your own matches?

I feel the handlers should be encouraged to look at their matches from a writer's standpoint as opposed to a judge's. In other words, they should ask themselves, "Who SHOULD win this match if it were real wrestling?" To determine the answer to that question, they should consider previous storylines, what's been done, what could be done, what shouldn't be done, and where everybody will go after it's all said and done. Booking should be determined on two things: 1.) what's the next logical step, and 2.) what makes it entertaining for the other readers.

5) What would you like to see on the new website that we didn't have last go-around?

Haven't been around... so couldn't really tell you. It's a nice site, though. Definitely one of the more in-depth e-wrestling sites I've seen. The database system helps that.

6) Anything in seriousness that you feel NFW needs, or could use?
Other than a response to the concern I brought up in my answer to question 2, there isn't much I think this fed needs to move on. A projected schedule for the future wouldn't be bad.

 

[jediPREZ]

Other than a response to the concern I brought up in my answer to question 2, there isn't much I think this fed needs to move on. A projected schedule for the future wouldn't be bad.

They're not in any way, shape or form a response to the quality of your RP, but what was IN the RP. That's why McKail showed up hungover, he was literally blasted in his RP.

In your RP, you mentioned the loss to Yori in TEAM, but there was also the underlying theme of Rocko's traveling schedule. The fact that he's in more than 3 feds should definitely be held in a realistic light. He can't go out and give 3 A+ performances in a row. There's going to come a time that he's going to have sub-par performance physically with that kind of schedule.

With these reviews, you're going to find some biases and tidbits like this because its coming from a non-kayfabe P.O.V. in some instances.

It should also be noted that not all house show matches are based on 100% RP, I'm also trying to prop in some storyline aspects as well.

 

[RStrawsma]

They're not in any way, shape or form a response to the quality of your RP, but what was IN the RP. That's why McKail showed up hungover, he was literally blasted in his RP.

In your RP, you mentioned the loss to Yori in TEAM, but there was also the underlying theme of Rocko's traveling schedule. The fact that he's in more than 3 feds should definitely be held in a realistic light. He can't go out and give 3 A+ performances in a row. There's going to come a time that he's going to have sub-par performance physically with that kind of schedule.

With these reviews, you're going to find some biases and tidbits like this because its coming from a non-kayfabe P.O.V. in some instances.

It should also be noted that not all house show matches are based on 100% RP, I'm also trying to prop in some storyline aspects as well.

Understandable. Just not something I've experienced in other feds, so I was kind of unsure of what to make of it. Thanks for the explanation; no complaints here.

 

[DizzaHizza]

1) Anything you'd like to say about RPs?

I like what I'm reading, but I do, and always have, hated the open thread idea. I need more structure via match threads. I don't know why, but it's just the way my mind works. Maybe it's because I feel more motivated to RP if I see that I have a match thread devoted to RPs (plus it adds another level of accountability). If the thread isn't there, then I just figure it's not that big of a deal if I RP or not.

2) Anything you'd like to say about the house shows?

I love the way their written up, but again, I can't stand the "Open Thread" RP idea.

3) Anything you think would encourage more matchwriting from the roster?

Make people more accountable. I think it helps when a fedhead puts up a post with the matches for the event, and who has committed to write the match. Not only do we know who to go to if it's late, but that person knows people are going to harass him/her.

4) How am I going to get you National Championship hopefuls to book your own matches?

Challenges were/are still a good idea, but there needs to be some sort of booking done on the management side of things. I know I didn't start with eWrestling 10 years ago to book matches. If I had, then I would have ran a fed by now. I'm in this to talk trash and tell stories. Sure, by booking matches I can start up feuds and such, but, personally, I'd rather be booked into a match, RP the hell out of it, and if there's a grudge between the characters then develop a feud from there. Again, just my personal preference.

5) What would you like to see on the new website that we didn't have last go-around?

More entrance music in that little box!

6) Anything in seriousness that you feel NFW needs, or could use?

I know there's a million forums already, but that doesn't mean that there's structured places to RP. Again, just my personal preference for every match I participate in, I'd rather have a designated thread for the match to keep me accountable ("Oh, Dove hasn't RP'd yet?") instead of having to dig through the "Open Thread" forums to try and find an opponent's RP. I'm also not sure if I dig the "handler involvement = better booking" idea, especially since you're trying to get people to book their own matches. I know that I have things higher up on my Daily Priority List than to log onto the forums (even though it seems like I'm always here) and fill out surveys, book matches, yadda yadda yadda. If the depth of my involvement influences booking outcomes, then why do I have a character to handle?

 

[jediPREZ]

Understandable. Just not something I've experienced in other feds, so I was kind of unsure of what to make of it. Thanks for the explanation; no complaints here.

That's totally cool, I was kind of expecting there to be a raised eyebrow about that 'cause its not something done in NFW before. . . well, because we're not accustomed to narrative house shows.

I will say one thing that anyone from the 2006 NFW Survivor Series can attest to:

Mentioning what's happened in other feds, no matter how relevant to the NFW match at hand...is generally looked at on a slightly negative level (unless McNichols is booking, where its basically the Anti-Christ) because in NFW, we selfishly care about ourselves and nothing else.

But yeah, Daymon being in multiple feds won't be held against him in his grudge 100% RP booked matches ever...but if Rocko has 5 matches in the span of a week and 2 are on NFW House Shows that are 12-hour flights for himself, you can't expect him to roll through the competition too easily. That just wouldn't be realistic.

 

[DizzaHizza]

They're not in any way, shape or form a response to the quality of your RP, but what was IN the RP. That's why McKail showed up hungover, he was literally blasted in his RP.

In your RP, you mentioned the loss to Yori in TEAM, but there was also the underlying theme of Rocko's traveling schedule. The fact that he's in more than 3 feds should definitely be held in a realistic light. He can't go out and give 3 A+ performances in a row. There's going to come a time that he's going to have sub-par performance physically with that kind of schedule.

With these reviews, you're going to find some biases and tidbits like this because its coming from a non-kayfabe P.O.V. in some instances.

It should also be noted that not all house show matches are based on 100% RP, I'm also trying to prop in some storyline aspects as well.

Does this mean you're trying to limit people's involvement with other feds outside of NFW? Lord knows I try and treat each individual fed like it's in its own world (try not to let my NFW career influence my EPW career, for example). Is this just a measure to keep NFW SUPER-kayfabe?

 

[jediPREZ]

Um...Dove...

Crash TV/PPV's get match threads, House Shows do not.

I'm not posting 20-25 match threads over two weeks. The Open RP forum idea is to breed interactivity between multiple characters, rather than two handlers.

Thanks for the comments about the booking your own match deal, I'll be taking those into consideration.

 

[DizzaHizza]

I realize that Crash and PPV gets threads, and that House Shows don't. I was just saying, that since we have more house shows than Crash and PPVs (at least it seems like that's the way it's going to happen), I just get lost in the pudding of RPs.

 

[jediPREZ]

Does this mean you're trying to limit people's involvement with other feds outside of NFW? Lord knows I try and treat each individual fed like it's in its own world (try not to let my NFW career influence my EPW career, for example). Is this just a measure to keep NFW SUPER-kayfabe?

Treating NFW as its own world is the 100% correct way of doing things.

I'm not trying to limit anyone's involvement outside of NFW and I wouldn't book anyone for a loss on those merits alone..

If NFW is holding shows across the world in Japan and Kin Hiroshi is flying back and forth across the world 3x a week. . . a house show reviewer, or a Scott Keith person is going to notice this and see if it effects him.

With the Daymon/McKail/Tui match, the above was taken into consideration, but so was Tui's choice to accept 3 matches in one week. Its more about adding a sense of realism than anything else.

I realize that Crash and PPV gets threads, and that House Shows don't. I was just saying, that since we have more house shows than Crash and PPVs (at least it seems like that's the way it's going to happen), I just get lost in the pudding of RPs.

Duly noted.

Maybe a thread for house shows would help?

 

[DizzaHizza]

I don't know if it would help other people, but I know it would help me. Hell, I completely forgot that I had a match to RP for on the last house show with Kin and Styles/Rage. I know if I had seen that I had a thread for the match, I would have kept on top of it. Things get busy enough (like my infamous 2-day hangovers) that I can't keep track of everything I'm suppossed to do sometimes.

Again, this is just personal preference, and I'm not speaking for the whole of the roster. Plus, I know how hard you work on NFW, and if you don't want to go making 25 threads for house shows, I'm not going to be the dude to fart in your soup bowl about it.

 

[jediPREZ]

I'm going to be honest, I'm completely disappointed with my lack of effort thus far here. And I just can't pin point what it is. I just now sat down to write a roleplay for Southern Baptist Coalition for their match when I noticed I completely missed the deadline for roleplays and the match has already aired. There has been three shows and I haven't did a single segment for my team yet, despite already knowing well ahead of time the segments I wanted to do with them. But for whatever reason, I'm just having trouble getting into NFW in comparison to last season (which is odd because I have twice as many ideas for SBC as I did with Guy).

Part of the reason, for me, is because last season I was so dead set on coming in and chasing after Angelo Deville. Even though he left like two weeks after I entered, by that time I was already in an angle and had stuff to do. Now as much as I hate to say it, there isn't really a single person on the roster I want to go after that motivates me to bust my ass.

Reading that back, I realize it is a cop out thing to say, but I honestly can't figure out why I'm not motivated with NFW but am active in all my other efeds.

I don't know what I can do for you, Bobby. . . even if there was that single person on the roster, it'd only be a band-aid until that was resolved. I'm hoping that when the tag tournament takes off we'll get some names in there that interest you. If you have anything you'd like me to try and attempt (getting someone in the fed, new ideas), you can always PM me.

 

[The Guy]

Nah, it is totally my fault that I haven't did more. I wrote some recaps for a house show but didn't bother to submit a segment. I have had plenty of time to write my rps for the house but haven't yet. I just need to get off my ass and do something to light a fire under me. I've got today and tomorrow off, so I'm going to try and work out an outline or something for SBC so I can get my ass in gear. There is plenty of material for me to work with here.

 

[Legion]

I've enjoyed doing the few RP's I did (even though Legion's more of a behind the scenes/interviewer) after a long absence from this (not been on this FW before now, so it's been refreshing!), the angle I've got in mind with Hunchblack about the rejects of society seems to be working well, the reply that Rook did to my last reply to Hunchblack's actually helped the direction I'm thinking of (so Rook, contact me when you get chance thru PM if you want), the actual interview will be a good 1 I hope, think Foley/Orton back in Feb 2004...

long may the madness continue!

 

[Rook Black]

okiedokie.

 

[Jason Payne]

I'm having problems adjusting to this new format. I don't know what it is, but I'm having trouble keeping up with what's going on. Before it was pretty straightforward. matches were made, threads were put up and deadlines were set. From all accounts, that aspect is still there...but I'm not really a hands on type of person when it comes to writing segments and the like. I generally try to work with whatever the fedheads throw at me.

Maybe that's a negative on me, but that's just how I'm used to operating for the last few years. At the end of Season 2, I was sure of where I wanted to go with Payne, what direction I wanted to take him and who I wanted to get involveed in angles with. Now, I don't know where Payne fits in to this new format, and where I need to get him involved in order to get him where I want to go.

I've been doing this now for five years. You'd think I knew what I was doing by now, but apparentally I'm just fricking lost. I don't know where I need to put Payne now in order to advance him. It's a little more than frustating on some levels because I felt as though I was just hitting my stride and now I have to take baby steps all over again to learn a new way of doing things. Like I said, I've been doing this for five years, and maybe I'm being a little presumptious, but I really thought I would be a lot farther along in things than I am right now.

But back on subject, I understand change is good, but until I can get used to this new way of doing things, I'm going to be fumbling around trying to establish Payne once again in a fed that's been his home for the last five years.

But that's just how I see things. If I'm totally reading something wrong, or coming off the wrong way, please set me straight.

 

[jediPREZ]

I'm having problems adjusting to this new format. I don't know what it is, but I'm having trouble keeping up with what's going on. Before it was pretty straightforward. matches were made, threads were put up and deadlines were set. From all accounts, that aspect is still there...but I'm not really a hands on type of person when it comes to writing segments and the like. I generally try to work with whatever the fedheads throw at me.

Maybe that's a negative on me, but that's just how I'm used to operating for the last few years. At the end of Season 2, I was sure of where I wanted to go with Payne, what direction I wanted to take him and who I wanted to get involveed in angles with. Now, I don't know where Payne fits in to this new format, and where I need to get him involved in order to get him where I want to go.

I've been doing this now for five years. You'd think I knew what I was doing by now, but apparentally I'm just fricking lost. I don't know where I need to put Payne now in order to advance him. It's a little more than frustating on some levels because I felt as though I was just hitting my stride and now I have to take baby steps all over again to learn a new way of doing things. Like I said, I've been doing this for five years, and maybe I'm being a little presumptious, but I really thought I would be a lot farther along in things than I am right now.

But back on subject, I understand change is good, but until I can get used to this new way of doing things, I'm going to be fumbling around trying to establish Payne once again in a fed that's been his home for the last five years.

But that's just how I see things. If I'm totally reading something wrong, or coming off the wrong way, please set me straight.

I think a major change that will help is that house shows will have their own match threads from now on, and we'll be limiting challenges to one a month. That will streamline what you have to find, where you have to RP, etc.

Just to clarify about the first month and my goals:

The idea was to let the handlers have more freedom over who they wanted to face, but apparently a good portion of you need to be led to the water moreso than I ever would've imagined. That's not a bad thing, I just thought people would be more excited to challenge each other, RP against whoever the f*ck they wanted, rather than being booked into a match every week.

Of course, for the last 5 years, anyone that's been in NFW has had it very easy in terms of knowing what to do since there was a pretty static way of scheduling matches. Basically, McNichols or myself said "Here are your matches, RP."

However, there was a time when we were on Yahoo Groups, Jason...and things weren't that much different than they are now in terms of the RP boards and how matches are getting set up.

ANNNNNNYWAY...I don't feel the first month challenge system was a rousing success in some ways, but it also weeded out alot of the new applicants that weren't truly motivated to compete in the fed. We got around 20-30 applications and accepted most of them since they were all good enough quality, however, I knew two things would happen:

1) We'd be oversaturated and confusing at the start, that's what happens with a major influx of new talent.

2) 50-75% would flake.

I've taken down the website and many of the bells and whistles for this fed to make sure that we keep the right people, and that people browsing the forums (which is important) will have the inside track on what's going on.

Re: Payne in NFW -- you're one of the 3 matches on the 40th episode of Crash TV against Yori Yakamo Junior in a falls count anywhere on the British Isles match. Suffice to say, Payne is starting off right where he left off...in a completely insane match that might make him eat babies out of intense hatred for all things NFW management.

I wouldn't worry about what's happened so far. Its only the first month of what's gone on, I was trying new ideas and throwing paint against the wall.

I'm going to be simplifying things, so you feel less lost...and you should always know to contact me via PM if you need a brainstorming partner.

 

[Jason Payne]

I think a major change that will help is that house shows will have their own match threads from now on, and we'll be limiting challenges to one a month. That will streamline what you have to find, where you have to RP, etc.

Just to clarify about the first month and my goals:

The idea was to let the handlers have more freedom over who they wanted to face, but apparently a good portion of you need to be led to the water moreso than I ever would've imagined. That's not a bad thing, I just thought people would be more excited to challenge each other, RP against whoever the f*ck they wanted, rather than being booked into a match every week..

I like that element. It's what led to the match being booked between Yori and Payne. But with House Show stuff, and the new title threads and everything that has crept up in the last month, I don't know if I was overwhelmed, or just perhaps out of the loop or what. I just found things very confusing.

Of course, for the last 5 years, anyone that's been in NFW has had it very easy in terms of knowing what to do since there was a pretty static way of scheduling matches. Basically, McNichols or myself said "Here are your matches, RP."

However, there was a time when we were on Yahoo Groups, Jason...and things weren't that much different than they are now in terms of the RP boards and how matches are getting set up.

I wasn't around for the Yahoo groups, and I'm sure that if I had been, I would probably be more receptive to this new format, or at least a little less confused. Yes I agree that as handlers, we have had it pretty easy as far as matches go, and perhaps that is where my fault lies, in the fact that I am used to that system and change is hard for me to accept, or work with. Like I said, I'm sure with time I will grow to understand the new system. I just need some time to adjust. I like the idea of being able to challenge other handlers, but I also like being able to build storylines, angles and fueds with other wrestlers at the same time. To me, everything has to have a purpose, or relate to something. I hope that makes sense.

ANNNNNNYWAY...I don't feel the first month challenge system was a rousing success in some ways, but it also weeded out alot of the new applicants that weren't truly motivated to compete in the fed. We got around 20-30 applications and accepted most of them since they were all good enough quality, however, I knew two things would happen:

1) We'd be oversaturated and confusing at the start, that's what happens with a major influx of new talent.

2) 50-75% would flake.

I've taken down the website and many of the bells and whistles for this fed to make sure that we keep the right people, and that people browsing the forums (which is important) will have the inside track on what's going on.

That was another thing that kind of put me off too. There was such a roster expansion that at least to me, it kind of muddled the picture a little bit. Don't get me wrong, I welcome new talent, but the influx we had kind of threw me a bit.

Re: Payne in NFW -- you're one of the 3 matches on the 40th episode of Crash TV against Yori Yakamo Junior in a falls count anywhere on the British Isles match. Suffice to say, Payne is starting off right where he left off...in a completely insane match that might make him eat babies out of intense hatred for all things NFW management.

I wouldn't worry about what's happened so far. Its only the first month of what's gone on, I was trying new ideas and throwing paint against the wall.

I'm going to be simplifying things, so you feel less lost...and you should always know to contact me via PM if you need a brainstorming partner.

Yeah, and you know what, I feel pretty ****ty for not putting up SOMETHING in that thread. I found time to do stuff for TEAM and NEW, but I didn't put nothing in for NFW, and that's a damned shame. I really don't have an excuse other than I really didn't manage my time well at all this week. Perhaps Yori and Payne's visas couldn't get approved?

Anyways, I think we're heading in a good direction...it's just a matter of being overwhelmed by the amount of things that were going on and wondering where exactly to put myself in the middle of all this...

 

[Hunchblack]

Yeah the format question bought up kind of echoes my thoughts as well. I'm the kind of person that will usually just go with anything and everything that's thrown at me, as far as match bookings and angles go. I think the way things are done are logical, but it's not something I've come across before and I may take a little bit of time getting used to it all.