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BRAWL 55: Bristol Posted!

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Definitely the quickest/dirtiest BRAWL, but it's a little teaser I suppose for the upcoming RELOADED 13 that we're plugging away on. Expect a BRAWL 56 lineup soon, so we have a RP session during what's hopefully a short wait. At least I'm not sick anymore. :)

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Well this'll teach me to trust people...

I thought it was actually courageous of me to try to spice up this tournament, offer a genuine surprise to the proceedings. You used it to further... your OOC vendetta against me? I'm gonna say Pete Russo wrote this and tell him what his mistake was, what he did that was most definitely wrong: rather than use the show to explain and showcase what you hate in Spooky Doom, you force Doom to act in an uncharacteristic manner so as to justify your hatred.

Granted there's a small kayfabe attempt at justifying Spooky Doom's reaction, but it's done conflating OOC comments regarding the tournament into saying that they're done by my character... Literally unable to tell character from reality! The joke is that nobody can express why they hate me in OOC terms either so we're stuck with general disdain wrote in the broadest terms imaginable for the match. People boo Doom because they do, that's it.

Brusch, if you'd do me a favor, please ignore whatever happened here for the purposes of IWF storylines because in all due honesty... I wouldn't be able to explain the chairshot myself. Talking to Brian as well on AIM; think I got his OK for ignoring BRAWL55. I'm being entirely truthful when I'm saying that whomever wrote the card wrote it just to fuck with my character, because it was their only shot of messing with me and this was certainly not in any strats or otherwise. I don't want everything I built in the IWF messed up by the same occasion.

I would've loved a little back and forth promo action where Impulse or Jason Murray tries to explain what's so bad about Spooky Doom, but doing it in an environment where the results are whatever suits your wants regardless of what I myself write was a bad idea on my part.

Hell, let's leave with an IC explanation. We'll say that the English Spooky Doom was another guy in a mask entirely and that the real Doom obviously couldn't wrestle in England while completing his functions in the West Coast. An Evil Dead, if you will. I'm washing my hands of this whole debacle entirely.
 

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Brusch, if you'd do me a favor, please ignore whatever happened here for the purposes of IWF storylines because in all due honesty... I wouldn't be able to explain the chairshot myself. Talking to Brian as well on AIM; think I got his OK for ignoring BRAWL55. I'm being entirely truthful when I'm saying that whomever wrote the card wrote it just to fuck with my character, because it was their only shot of messing with me and this was certainly not in any strats or otherwise. I don't want everything I built in the IWF messed up by the same occasion.

It did get a little weird. On the one hand, I felt Ocho as a wrestler would continue to pursue Spooky Doom (the wrestler) in something like this, because Ocho has a bit of an obsessive streak. And in Ocho's mindset, Spooky Doom is the bad guy because Ocho feels he's been wronged. At the same time, I know Spooky's generally being portrayed as a face in places like IWF, so the full-blown heel actions are atypical.

At the same time (and I have no idea who wrote anything and don't want to come off as accusatory)...if I had never read any IWF material and was just basing the match on the RPs from BRAWL55, I could see why it would be written that Spooky's a heel. Spooky's a character with a large dose of self-confidence, and when it's a new fed without historical precedence, I can see how the line between self-confidence and egotism in a character can be hard to define. Plus with my RP, Ocho is intended to be presented as a man who has been wronged by Spooky and who is looking for righteous vengeance - which could add to Spooky appearing more heel.

All that being said - one admittedly hastily put together card is just one card. Hell, they kept calling him Leyenda DEL Ocho instead of De Ocho...shit happens. Not saying it's "right", but I think the "wrongdoing" here can be addressed in a less flagrant manner.
 

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Well this'll teach me to trust people...

I thought it was actually courageous of me to try to spice up this tournament, offer a genuine surprise to the proceedings. You used it to further... your OOC vendetta against me? I'm gonna say Pete Russo wrote this and tell him what his mistake was, what he did that was most definitely wrong: rather than use the show to explain and showcase what you hate in Spooky Doom, you force Doom to act in an uncharacteristic manner so as to justify your hatred.

Granted there's a small kayfabe attempt at justifying Spooky Doom's reaction, but it's done conflating OOC comments regarding the tournament into saying that they're done by my character... Literally unable to tell character from reality! The joke is that nobody can express why they hate me in OOC terms either so we're stuck with general disdain wrote in the broadest terms imaginable for the match. People boo Doom because they do, that's it.

Brusch, if you'd do me a favor, please ignore whatever happened here for the purposes of IWF storylines because in all due honesty... I wouldn't be able to explain the chairshot myself. Talking to Brian as well on AIM; think I got his OK for ignoring BRAWL55. I'm being entirely truthful when I'm saying that whomever wrote the card wrote it just to fuck with my character, because it was their only shot of messing with me and this was certainly not in any strats or otherwise. I don't want everything I built in the IWF messed up by the same occasion.

I would've loved a little back and forth promo action where Impulse or Jason Murray tries to explain what's so bad about Spooky Doom, but doing it in an environment where the results are whatever suits your wants regardless of what I myself write was a bad idea on my part.

Hell, let's leave with an IC explanation. We'll say that the English Spooky Doom was another guy in a mask entirely and that the real Doom obviously couldn't wrestle in England while completing his functions in the West Coast. An Evil Dead, if you will. I'm washing my hands of this whole debacle entirely.

I wrote three replies to you. None of them were flattering.

So I'm just gonna leave you with this. Besides complaining that Spooky wasn't a superface(which I'm not even sure if THAT'S why you're pissed or not, your post made little to no sense to me), did you have ANY other thought about the show that might reveal you read more than just your match? Or did you say fuck it after you weren't portrayed how you wished?
 

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You used it to further... your OOC vendetta against me? I'm gonna say Pete Russo wrote this and tell him what his mistake was, what he did that was most definitely wrong: rather than use the show to explain and showcase what you hate in Spooky Doom, you force Doom to act in an uncharacteristic manner so as to justify your hatred.

Didn't write a thing on this card.
 

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Spooky Doom thought the show was in England. That HAD to be addressed. In fact, after reading the show -- how can you even say English Spooky Doom at this point? How is this not clear by now? The show was in TENNESSEE.

Spooky Doom has done nothing but cause controversy throughout the ESEN universe and been universally hated by several locker rooms whether right or wrong. I reserve the right to have NFW fans be snarky and smarky bastards in response to the above real-time environment that Spooky has been apart of in said universe after thinking the show was in England and not Tennessee. Cause the people of Tennessee in particular would totally support him for that, right? Have you been to Tennessee? Do you understand what type of fan environment the above would create when combined together?

Sorry about Del Ocho... I thought that was the proper masculine Spanish conjugation, serves me right for going back 15 years in my head to Spanish II classes. Anyway, I just fixed that in edits. Let me know if I missed a spot.

I wrote the match based off the RP thread... Nothing more nothing less. If Spooky Doom would like to abandon ship I will live another day.
 
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I won a match, this is clearly flagrant disrespect for my character and what I have to offer to NFW. I demand you rectify this post-haste henceforth.

(real feedback coming later)
 

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Katz is a mad genius. He's given you a story and a conflict with de ocho right off the bat. It's completely up to you what you do with it. And you can take it as a moment of personal weakness, you could call the evil spooky another guy in a mask and bring Leslie Nelson in to solve the case. The world is still wide open.
 

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Sorry about Del Ocho... I thought that was the proper masculine Spanish conjugation, serves me right for going back 15 years in my head to Spanish II classes. Anyway, I just fixed that in edits. Let me know if I missed a spot.

Hey, no worries...I'm actually not sure about the proper conjugation myself, now that you mention it. Serves me right for making that character's name weird!

Murray/Fargo/Atken was the match of the night, and I cracked up at the hippie commentary throughout Harmen/Nein. Entertaining stuff!
 

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One note about the chairshot. I read one of your bios...

It says nothing about NO chairshots or reference Spooky as a superface that will never use a weapon. Its completely sarcastic in tone and deference to a wrestler that's made a living out of delivering chairshots and switching from heel to face and back to heel storylines. I suggest you add some bolder notes to avoid this in the future with whatever endeavors that Spooky is apart of.
 

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Granted I got the the continent wrong, but here's something that bothers me from Jason Murray's last RP...

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JASON MURRAY: I call for change in the NFW and they’re importing crazy from across the Atlantic. This is a promotion that once gave away signed dildos to the first three thousand fans in attendance for tv tapings-
Jason is the homegrown NFW guy. Jason resents the crazy imported from across the Atlantic. I go to England because when I think Bristol I think of Bristol, England. Therefore, when Jason states that we're importing crazy from across the Atlantic, he's buying into my narrative. Doom's first words after "Sup?" is how he made the trip all the way to jolly ol' England because yadda yadda; ergo Jason must think he's English himself. So without putting any state after the city name, did I make a mistake or did you make it purposefully confusing?

The rest is just so maddeningly infuriating, if not a pitiful take on the human condition. When you justify your decision over what I said about the tournament (never mind you even trying to state what in particular offends you about what I said, causing me to wonder if you're just angry because whatever I said struck a little too close to home), you are in fact confirming that you're unable to tell the difference between character and handler! And as a handler, I took the chance entering this tournament and putting my character into your hands knowing full well who was in charge. I played the game straight up, and you used the occasion to rewrite my character so that it would fit into your bias. I'm undeniably the better man here, and words cannot convey how disappointed I am in you all.

Which segues quite nicely into my answer for Tom Ford. Once realizing that the match was a giant fuck off to my intention, I went "fuck off" right back, skimmed the rest of the card for any further mention of Doom and wrote my response. This card was not worth the effort I put into it. For anything else, you're welcome to voice your complaints about me or my character by PM rather than just brag about how you wrote three replies to my intent and leave me wondering what the Hell you're refering to.

Brusch: I realize that you wanted to continue your feud with Doom, but did you ever think that a deadline promo (well, a last day promo) when I had already RPed twice wasn't the way to do it? Or have you ever thought that forcing a feud by having one of the characters act in a most uncharacteristic manner ruins what the feud is for in the first place? I know you're writing the IWF tag match so I beseech you to ignore every aspect of BRAWL 55 as no good could come off it.

Finally, omission never implies permission. In all of his applications, Spooky Doom is always refered to as a face. There is never any need to precise that a face doesn't break the rules; that's the definition of a face! When a face does break the rules, he's defined as a tweener or an antihero and such details are writen on the application. This is all moot because you don't even write Doom as a face in the first place; so if you don't even respect that, why would you respect anything else I would precise on the application?

Look, I refuse to believe you don't know these basic aspects of e-wrestling so you're obviously trolling me right now; which is why I need to remove my character out of your hands and into the minds of those people that matter (the IWF match writers, for instance) ASAP. You're writing my character for me, except you're writing what you think I am as a handler rather than the character of Spooky Doom. And that's poison.
 

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Brusch: I realize that you wanted to continue your feud with Doom, but did you ever think that a deadline promo (well, a last day promo) when I had already RPed twice wasn't the way to do it? Or have you ever thought that forcing a feud by having one of the characters act in a most uncharacteristic manner ruins what the feud is for in the first place? I know you're writing the IWF tag match so I beseech you to ignore every aspect of BRAWL 55 as no good could come off it.

This amount of high-horsing is unneccessary, especially since the NFW match as it was written provides another launching point, rather than conclusion to, the Ocho/Spooky IWF feud; whether you agree or disagree with the manner in which the launching point was provided has nothing to do with me, and getting pissed that I posted a single "I'm going to keep chasing you" RP is pointless and counterproductive.

And there's no need to get all in my face about the merits of having your character get booed and chairshot Ocho - neither of those things were my idea or my decision to make. Again, counterproductive.

I already have plans on how I'm going to write the IWF tag match, and Brian has already given me instructions on how it should be booked - and since he is the fedhead, I follow his instructions on matchwriting, not yours. I'm not planning on including Brawl 55 material in the match, but you need to be careful about trying to force the way your character is presented in matches when you refuse to write the match yourself (which is the case in IWF - you specifically requested to not write the match featuring your character).
 

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I feel all this drama should be resolved in some kind of cage... perhaps with a tribute to Hulk Hogan.

FEEDBACK:

- Honestly, I loved the playful intro. I mean we live in an era where R-Truth has missed a house show before because he went to a city of the same name in the wrong state. That literally happened. I don't see the issue with being playful with the fact that Spooky's own RP had him headin' on over to Engerland. I don't know if Spooky missed the joke that the intro didn't have Spooky actually IN England, the entire joke was Spooky traveling around thinking he was in England while very much being in Tennessee. Writing about this so much makes my head hurt for such a cute little intro segment.

- I want to go to a Jug Funk Band concert.

- I await the impending murder of Bret Kelly.

- Again, I have to back up Katz on the Spooky issue. Really on two facts. Just because you say and state that your character is a super-face, doesn't make it so. Beyond that, even if Spooky was this super-do-gooder elsewhere, that seems exactly the kind of person that a smarky NFW crowd would come to hate. Again, REAL LIFE EXAMPLE, look how well Jeff Hardy went down on his visit over to RoH. The important thing to take away from this is that Katz should be booking Spooky Doom vs. Earl of Doom as soon as humanly possible.

- I love Ikan Jobtoyoo. I like things that make me smile as I read through them and Voss' stuff with Ikan has always done that, it was fun to see him here even if we all knew what the end result would be for poor Ikan. Really happy to see Ocho pick up the win here, I've sang Ben's praises before but the guy just really hits the gimmick pitch perfect, it's a gimmick I just couldn't possibly run with. I really hope this little bump at the start doesn't discourage future participation because I think Ocho is a great, great fit for NFW. Short match, done the job it needed to (even if someone strongly disagrees) and really, to have an inbuilt feud that could have a lot of fun potential here is great but again, that's Spooky's decision to make.

- Jesus that's a lot of words for what happened on the card.

- Hoshi, Impulse and P. King Duk. I WONDER WHO IS GOING OUT IN THIS ONE. Normally when I say things like that, I get proven wrong but really, Mr King Duk Windham is not one to prove people wrong. Again, the match doing what in needs to in terms of moving the Grand Prix forward. It's amazing how much action you can really pack into these 1-2 paragraph matches.

- Jack Harmen/Nein. Analyst of the year award? I think so. I think the hippy should become a full member of the BRAWL team so I can learn if people's names are their names or not. Actually scratch that. This should be the new format for Brawl. All Brawl matches should be rambling third person accounts from memory. That way my matches will look half decent. Anyway, needless to say, I loved this.

- Main event was great. I'm sure I've said a few times before I love being in matches where I just don't know how the result will turn out. This was certainly one of them. I was going by memory of the RP thread thinking the Murray and Fargo RP's were pretty great stuff and really thought I may have been a goner. The match kept this one tight and I think with the three people involved, that's how it should've went. I'm guessing this was a Biron match and it was a great job, really fun all the way through... and a nice surprise for me at the end. Did someone take heed of my love of giving a match a soundtrack?!

Obviously this wasn't the biggest BRAWL event of all the times, it was there to put the wheels into motion for the Grand Prix but looking at who has progressed, this is going to get very competitive very quickly. Really looking forward to the next round.
 

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Also just to pick up on the IWF stuff.

Generally I don't believe that what happens in one fed should bleed into another anyway. I can see things like that for the Ultratitle but in general, I just don't believe in it. I mean, again, to pluck around in my bag of REAL LIFE EXAMPLES, you'll generally find the same talent in the American indy circuits playing different roles in different feds they work in. Now sometimes, things in feds may bleed in to each other but that is far more the exception that it is the rule. Same thing when TNA talent used to appear in RoH, a lot of the time in different roles.

So yeah, I do agree with the point BRAWL shouldn't tie in to IWF matches but I think that should be a general way of operation not as a reaction to the results.
 

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Also, I'll be fucked if I ever write a Spooky Doom match in IWF now.
 

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Christian's (Spooky Doom) access to the NFW forums has been removed. (at least I think it is)

I'm not going to engage him any further in regard to this show, topic or debate... and based off past history with him, I'm just heading this off early to avoid the clusterfuck of responses.

Leyenda/Brusch -- I hope you stick around, I'll find you something fun... but I understand if this sucks since Spooky won't be a 1-on-1 opponent, which I was going to make happen... until this all started.
 

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Now how will I up my post count? RP? That's silly
 

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Christian's (Spooky Doom) access to the NFW forums has been removed. (at least I think it is)

I'm not going to engage him any further in regard to this show, topic or debate... and based off past history with him, I'm just heading this off early to avoid the clusterfuck of responses.

Leyenda -- I hope you stick around, I'll find you something fun... but I understand if this sucks since Spooky won't be a 1-on-1 opponent, which I was going to make happen... until this all started.

Fun things sound fun!

I am perfectly fine with isolating the Ocho/Spooky feud to IWF...I have a sneaking suspicion a 1-on-1 match is in the future for those two over there sometime in the future. No need to try to force things to work in other places if they just aren't working, but it was worth a shot.

And Colin - you are too, too kind. I hope to deserve those words some day.
 

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Thanks to everybody who liked the hippie. ;) credit.where it's due: katz actually greatly improved upon what I submitted there. And to think, all this just to avoid writing in Natrone's voice.
 

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