Steve
the EX-QUEEN of FW~!
The good news is we had discussion on this board.
The bad is, Chad's told me I'm never allowed to post again!
Ha.
On a side-note I think the previous thread proves why a unified title will never work. Oh yes, we've all grown so much!
Everybody's entitled to their own opinions obviously, I just want to steer mine clear of the "FWO needs to die" side of the fence.
I think the league is great, you dont' reach the level it's on now without doing a lot of things right. My distance from it is my own doing. An old dog not putting the time and effort into learning a new trick.
For Justin and crew, don't hate me. Hate Pete instead
Couple points here.
1) There's no right way to do something. We all should be able to embrace that idea and study the opposite way. Like Coach K ripped off Pitino's system in the late '90s.
2) While I would have liked more help getting on fwo cards, and being told who goes over.....i could roll with a angle based fed very easily.
You can look at any fed and pick it apart. CSWA, NFW, any league on FW Central. There's no perfect league. Anybody who says, "I run the perfect league!" is lying.
I would never in a million years say angle based feds don't have great writing, or storytelling. I've read the posts, and cards. I've love to have 95% of their roster in the CSWA.
Angle based generally move quicker, mainly because they have guys who are serious about writing and take the time to turn out stuff on a weekly basis.
Does 2 shows a week get stale? Maybe.
But to suggest going a card or two a month keeps it freash (for Pete), is highly subjective.
The Angle/RP difference really comes down to whether or not you want the competition to surprise you. Whether you do or don't, is fine. There's places for both of us.
As much as I like rping month to month in the NFW in classic RP style, and waiting to see if Melton wins, I enjoy just as much the segments. Maybe more so. Trying to get in Lindsay Troy's pants. Why? Because I enjoy writing it with Lindsay, and some of you if only Tom Sigel enjoys reading it.
Do I do it to 'win'?
No. The thrill is reading what Lindsay adds to the pieces, admiring her writing, and getting a laugh from her when she reads my drafts.
That's what angle based writers are all about. It's the writing.
To not have a competition aspect of it doesn't in any way not make it great storytelling. How could you think so?
Now, not to say angle based means better writing. Just different. One guy hopes to get enjoyment from results, the other from creating pieces and working with other writers.
Personally, i think in rp feds we're so close to being straight angle feds anyway this point is moot to argue.
Re: Eli/Windham.
To suggest that we know the outcome, lessens the writing and that we need new characters is something i don't agree with.
I'd say Pete and I in this angle have put more effort and writing into our characters than what normally goes into a ppv match. The writing, the storylines....are created by us so that the reader when he or she reads the match has more appreciation for the event itself and the outcome, and the storyline that's planned right after the match should hopefully add interest as well.
I don't see how it could be suggested our characters are dead cause there's no competition between us in flash rp style.
While i agree it's an honor to rp against me, it was just as much, if not more fun to write the rp series with Pete, and it'll be fun to plan/write the match with him too.
You don't need the 'rp fed surprise/competiton' to make great writing in fantasy wrestling.
Both ways are fun.
It's all a matter of what floats your boat.
Anyway......my last word. For anyone who responds, in the words of Keith David...
"Let's be NICE............Let's be CIVIL."
The bad is, Chad's told me I'm never allowed to post again!
Ha.
On a side-note I think the previous thread proves why a unified title will never work. Oh yes, we've all grown so much!
Everybody's entitled to their own opinions obviously, I just want to steer mine clear of the "FWO needs to die" side of the fence.
I think the league is great, you dont' reach the level it's on now without doing a lot of things right. My distance from it is my own doing. An old dog not putting the time and effort into learning a new trick.
For Justin and crew, don't hate me. Hate Pete instead
Couple points here.
1) There's no right way to do something. We all should be able to embrace that idea and study the opposite way. Like Coach K ripped off Pitino's system in the late '90s.
2) While I would have liked more help getting on fwo cards, and being told who goes over.....i could roll with a angle based fed very easily.
You can look at any fed and pick it apart. CSWA, NFW, any league on FW Central. There's no perfect league. Anybody who says, "I run the perfect league!" is lying.
I would never in a million years say angle based feds don't have great writing, or storytelling. I've read the posts, and cards. I've love to have 95% of their roster in the CSWA.
Angle based generally move quicker, mainly because they have guys who are serious about writing and take the time to turn out stuff on a weekly basis.
Does 2 shows a week get stale? Maybe.
But to suggest going a card or two a month keeps it freash (for Pete), is highly subjective.
The Angle/RP difference really comes down to whether or not you want the competition to surprise you. Whether you do or don't, is fine. There's places for both of us.
As much as I like rping month to month in the NFW in classic RP style, and waiting to see if Melton wins, I enjoy just as much the segments. Maybe more so. Trying to get in Lindsay Troy's pants. Why? Because I enjoy writing it with Lindsay, and some of you if only Tom Sigel enjoys reading it.
Do I do it to 'win'?
No. The thrill is reading what Lindsay adds to the pieces, admiring her writing, and getting a laugh from her when she reads my drafts.
That's what angle based writers are all about. It's the writing.
To not have a competition aspect of it doesn't in any way not make it great storytelling. How could you think so?
Now, not to say angle based means better writing. Just different. One guy hopes to get enjoyment from results, the other from creating pieces and working with other writers.
Personally, i think in rp feds we're so close to being straight angle feds anyway this point is moot to argue.
Re: Eli/Windham.
To suggest that we know the outcome, lessens the writing and that we need new characters is something i don't agree with.
I'd say Pete and I in this angle have put more effort and writing into our characters than what normally goes into a ppv match. The writing, the storylines....are created by us so that the reader when he or she reads the match has more appreciation for the event itself and the outcome, and the storyline that's planned right after the match should hopefully add interest as well.
I don't see how it could be suggested our characters are dead cause there's no competition between us in flash rp style.
While i agree it's an honor to rp against me, it was just as much, if not more fun to write the rp series with Pete, and it'll be fun to plan/write the match with him too.
You don't need the 'rp fed surprise/competiton' to make great writing in fantasy wrestling.
Both ways are fun.
It's all a matter of what floats your boat.
Anyway......my last word. For anyone who responds, in the words of Keith David...
"Let's be NICE............Let's be CIVIL."