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Kahrytes

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Finishers are cool. Whether they're super flippy Canadian Destroyer double underhook shiz or a Heart Punch, all theatrical and silly, finishers rule.

What makes a finisher worthy of your character?

As a heel Boston Bancroft, I liked using the Boston Massacre
for the visual. However, Boston turned face and Box was doing great stuff, so now the move even has a history.

And I love the Burning Hammer not for head droppyness or its visual, but the history. Only used 7 times, deadliest move of them all...

Tom's "Ode to Madness" is just me indulging my Randy Savage love. I'm not really sure I should have it be a finisher, though. Tom's just not heavy enough to make it a killer. Hence why I introduced Tom's new finisher, a straightjacket spinning neckbreaker. Shamelessly stolen from AkuA.

What makes a finisher for you guys? Ramble about finishers. Finishers rule. Finisher finisher finisher.
 

Evan H.

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Box adopted The Boston Massacre from Bancroft (still the best feud I've ever helped with, yay Defiance)

I tried to keep everything Box doers pretty simple. Not a lot of flash. After the feud with Bancroft was over, I asked Kevin if I could take a scalp. This move was it.

http://youtu.be/bBL89_n4lCc

Bombasto Bomb (powerbomb into the exposed metal turnbuckle) my murder death kill spot.

http://youtu.be/t9J-a1fSeTM

The Heart Punch. Try as I might I can't find a video of someone doing it like Box does it, with the arm wrenched around behind the guys head. But in any case...

http://youtu.be/PLXE6MO-cBo

Cradle Piledriver

I think the piledriver is the coolest most definitive pro wrestling move ever. 'Nuff said.

http://youtu.be/cAnzYQT_4K8

God's Firey Right Hand. I love moves from the old days you just don't see anymore in wrestling (like the heart punch, or even the piledriver to be completely honest with all the hubbub over head and neck injuries) the Iron Claw is just the most insane retro maneuver ever. I'm a Texas wrestling nerd. World Class was what little wrestling my dad watched when he was a kid, the Von Erich's were all fucking AWESOME, Texas wrestling is tits. Box was the perfect person to use this move.

http://youtu.be/7BIMUJJ6kuc
 

BigPimpin

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Finishers, IMO, always have to be one of three things:

1) Unique or different in some way - When I was first making characters, I wanted finishing moves that were unique and took things a bit further. Some of them defied reality, most notably the corkscrew shooting star press that Black Zack Dragon did. The RTD was more realistic than that, but in 1999 it was mostly unheard of. Brock Lesnar made a less head-droppy version much later (2003?) in the F-5, and the motion of Christian's finisher mimic's that movement, except instead of a flat front bump the wrestler gets headdropped. Both maneuvers are similar in that both of them were extremely different moves for their time and it made them more noticeable.

2) Looks legitimate - Christian's MDK finisher looks like it will fucking kill someone (fun begins at :15): http://youtu.be/C2Na0o9Q90o. Finisher's should have that effect, regardless of whether you're big or small. I think that's why the superkick caught on when people were efedding smaller guys: it looked legitimate and there was documented history of Michaels winning massive amounts of matches against basically anyone regardless of size.

3) Different or executed better than 98% of the wrestling world - if there's one thing the "E" has proven, it's that certain moves are just deadly when "executed correctly" or executed by the right people. Sure, everyone in the "E" throws punches, but when Big Show punches you in the face, you get KTFO. Similarly, a lot of indy-type guys can do a moonsault, but Daniels does his BME different from everyone, and when he executes it, it's perfect-looking. See also: everyone does superkicks but Jeff Andrews and Cancer Jiles KO someone with them, while other guys get 2 counts.

You also have to know your audience and know what will get over as a finisher in the territory. An example of that is a little story I heard from a small fed elsewhere. A decent-sized local name with a bad attitude was booked in the main event of an indy fed show, and he got into an argument with two respected regular upper-midcarders. The issue of contention is that the local name had showed up and made a big deal about how he wasn't going to watch people that weren't on his level. Typical high-horse bullshit. Two of the UMC's took exception and got into an argument with him until it was separated backstage with little to no resolution.

So the UMC's decided to go out there and send a message to the LN.

The LN's normal finisher was a running Ace Crusher. The UMC's, during their match against each other, executed some high number of running Ace Crushers between them. I swear, it was like a transition move for the match, it was done like 10 times between them in a 15 minute match, all for 1.5-2.25 counts. So, later on in the night, when the "name" came out and did his one Ace Crusher and pinned the guy, the crowd was dead and he couldn't figure out why. He could still not know why for all I know, I'm not sure if anyone told him. But the point I'm making is that you have to know your audience. Had he seen that match, besides being outraged, he could have audibled the finish into something that would be more over with the crowd. Similarly, your finisher could be a badass-looking 360-Degree Sattelite Headscissor Burning Hammer of DOOM~!, but if your audience is desensitized to headdrops it won't be nearly as effective as, say, a badass-looking Sharpshooter.

My personal flavor depends on the character. If he has no set strategy or theme, a headdrop is a good way to put someone down for the three.
 

JeffOLW

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When I first started efedding, I wanted my finishers to be something that I didn't see anyone else using, ever. Jeff Andrews' original finishers, back when he was still named Jeffy Andrews, were a flying top rope superkick and a vertical suplex to samoan drop, and the first move I added to it was a reverse full nelson STO. Ronnie Long's original finisher was a "five star" version of the guillotine legdrop, and Cito Conarri's original finisher was a triple jump 450 splash. Heidi's Beautiful Dreamer was invented under the same mindset.

Then I discovered indy wrestling.

And it's funny Brian should link to a Super Dragon video, because that was exactly who I was trying to emulate with Andrews during the Andrews Drivers era. Super Dragon has 4 Psycho Drivers, so I had to up that and give Andrews 5 "Andrews Drivers" plus the Andrews Driver

About Super Dragon, though, although I think he was awesome, I think in the long run he might've been very bad for the indy scene. He had an almost Goldberg-esque charisma and the reason most people watched a Super Dragon match is because SD beat the absolute hell out of people and made it look legitimate. But wrestlers without Dragon's charisma and badassitude started copying the style. Now there's a working-too-stiff epidemic on the indy scene, and guys like Joe Lider who have nothing BUT finishers in their movesets.

I joined Biron's MPW, and he told me "We sell piledrivers lucha-style so lose all that", and so I decided to revamp Andrews' entire moveset.

Nowadays I like to look for credible looking moves that you don't see getting used very often in efedding. To go with my own moves, I don't believe I've ever seen anyone else in efeds use the Senton Bomb.

www.youtu.be/Ov0KIwE8_nA

I haven't seen anyone use the Icepick (thumb to the throat) submission. It's not super-cool-looking but it's gimmickly-appropriate for Ronnie Long, so I gave it to him as a finisher.

I haven't seen anyone using the Killswitch/Unprettier since Miah DeVan retired in like 2004, so I just recommended it to a soon-to-arrive Defiance wrestler. Come to think of it, I was the one who told Miah to use it...
 

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My finisher selection for Edward White comes from two things: WWF No Mercy and watching a lot of WCW growing up.

The Death Valley Driver is such a badass move. I was trying to find an example of Perry Saturn doing it but all I found was some match from Thunder that wasn't very good. But seriously, so good.

I've always liked the Crucifix Powerbomb too... but through out my journeys in e-fedding I found myself distancing away from big huge characters and more to the lean and smaller wrasslers. Edward White doing that would be rather awkward and just silly. Maybe I'll bust it out in the future for another character. Nicky Corrozzo or Hector Perez or someone large enough.

Powerbombs. No one uses powerbombs anymore.
 

Damien

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You know, I don't think I could Brian's third point better than Brian did.

I'm of the opinion that pretty much anything can be used as a finisher as long as it's sold in the style that 'Nobody hits that clotheline like Mike Hardline, the walking clothesline' - which, by the way, I've totally registered.

Hulk Hogan, Ultimate Warrior, Big Show, Santino Marella... none of them used or use a move that would make anyone really sit up and pay attention, but as soon as you say "Oh, he hits that pressure point and his opponent is out" or that "nobody kicks out after he hits that" you've got credibility added in bucket loads.

Which brings me to a pet peeve. Kicking out of finishers.

When used right, I can't argue, it adds excitement to a match that is usually un paralelled. I mean, who didn't jump out of their seats when The Rock kicked out of Stone Cold's stunners at Wrestlemania 17?

E-Fedding, at least in my experience, has a tendency to forget about finishers doing just that and some people feel like they can just have a finishers kick out whenever they feel like it. While Defiance has never been like that, I've seen places that were, probably why I'm here instead of there.

But, I guess when you're writing the crowd reactions, you can make it the most exciting thing in the world every time.

If they did that on RAW every week soon enough nobody would give a shit when the supposed finisher was hit at all.

Also, the greatest finisher in history is this:
 

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That is what happens when Cobra tag teams with Masked Tom Sawyer.
 

Ulfric

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The best finisher I have ever had for an efed character was when Justin showed me the video for the lightning spiral while I was trying to come up with the moveset for Jake Donovan. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyVsGNnFcl8 I loved that the move looked like it would really hurt, and that it didn't rely on a great deal of strength to execute, which was great, since Jake was a smaller character. I also really liked that i hadn't seen the finisher before, so it was something new (at least to me) to add to the character. I've had pretty common finishers for most of my other efed characters over the years, most of which are not even noteworthy enough to remember.
 

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I think Double Arm DDTs are sick.


ALSO SICK AND DRAGON JONES IS SICK SO THERE U GO ;)
 

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I first created Troy Matthews as a "brother" character to my main character at the time, Rob Sharpe. As he was much smaller than the 6'3", 250 pound Sharpe, he was to be the batshit-crazy highflyer type, which lead to me inventing all sorts of moves for him like the Non-Stop Flight (a 450 splash with such impact that it made him flip off the target onto his feet, and hit a standing moonsault), the Jet Crash (a Rocker Dropper delivered in similar fashion to a Tornado DDT), and the like.

When I redesigned him into Troy Matthews in 2004, I scaled back his style a LOT, and simplified his moveset into finishers I knew where more doable. I wish someone had an archive of CRW's page, I'd love to remember the moves I had for him other than The Devil's Own/Devil Crusher, which was your basic Acid Drop cutter.

I experimented with other finishers such as the Trident Driver (underhook Rocker Dropper), the Devil Crusher II (Shiranui), and the Jack of Devils (Diamond Dust, lovingly ripped off of Jeff's character Jack Cassidy).

Then DEF S04E01 got me against Trendkiller and whoever wrote that match (Jeff? Justin?) gave me the perfect finisher in the form of the shining enzuigiri.

Around '04-'05, when WWE still gave half a shit about their cruiserweight division, it seemed like everyone there was using some variation on the Shining Wizard or enzuigiri as a finisher, but that practice declined once they retired the division. So when I saw that move was used to put TK's lights out, I ran with it, called it the Trendsetter as a "take that" towards TK, and stuck with it since it was a perfect fit for Troy's kickboxer style. I might change the name for DEF 3.0 since it's not as relevant as before, but keep the move? HELL yes.
 
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Lee R.

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Kai Scott's original finisher was a springboard fameasser called the Hit And Run. It didn't really work because the setup was too contrived, so I switched to the Lo Down, that was D-Lo Brown's version of the frogsplash.

When Kai first turned heel I gave him a pair of new finishers. One was a spinning sit-out double underhook facebuster, and the other was a tombstone variation of the Steiner Screwdriver. Much later I gave him a submission finisher that was some sort of armlock called the Untouchabreaker.

Kai Scott's wrestling style is a lot like Kurt Angle's. He's a formerly great all arounder that's been having to slow his style down bit by bit over the years because his body is breaking apart. He dropped the flying fameasser because it was messing up his back, the low down because it was messing up his knees, and every time I rework Kai Scott I try to make him slower. One thing that happens in real wrestling that you never see in efedding is acknowledgmeent of the incredible physical toll pro wrestling takes, and I try to make Kai reflect that.
 

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