ACTION ITEMS and IDEAS/QUESTIONS...

[jediPREZ]

IMMEDIATE ACTION ITEMS:

-Talladega -- will be up either tonight/tomorrow night.
-RELOADED -- not sure about this one, there's alot of leftover pieces from GF. I'm shooting an email to see if anything's written, if not...then I'll summarize. Summary may need to happen for DORCH/RYAN if nobody picks it up and I have to add finishes to two matches, etc. Would like to hope this is next week completion.

FUTURE THOUGHTS:

"One Show at a Time"

I've tried killing two birds with one stone in terms of the roster size/matchwriting capabilities. It doesn't work out as there's too much risk once one matchwriter goes down. It's a serious trickle-down effect and noted by many of you as a death knell the moment you saw it. I'm thinking that this means BRAWL becomes our lynchpin show. RELOADED, SC, etc... need to be spaced out accordingly and sparingly until we're in a 'hot' period for people wanting to write matches.

"I don't like writing matches"

I know Chris/Nova expressed his hesitancy although I've always loved his matches, but Ibet he'd write a fantastic CARD INTRO piece. Even if everyone writes their matches on time, there's still segments, the introduction, all these other pieces that help flesh out the show...and require little to no knowledge of a cross armbreaker. If we had people assigned to the SHOW INTRO, MATCH INTRO, SEGUEWAYS, SEGMENTS, COMMERCIALS -- it's part of the show. I know Pete mentioned the EPW rule of one-sentence summaries or something of that ilk. A 8-page BRAWL is where I draw the line on NFW's tradition of presentation. If we're writing five 1-sentence matches, we may as well get to our closing PPV. But the important note I want anyone to take from this is that matches aren't the only part of the show we could use help on in getting the shows out. If you have seg ideas for characters that aren't yours, a show intro piece, etc -- THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.

"Scheduling"

This one's a doozy. We've got a fairly large roster. We don't have many consistent matchwriters. Billy, Pete and Biron have pretty much been awesome with this for a bit as they handle both long- and short-formers.

So how do we go about scheduling with this little of a matchwriting core at our disposal? If we're going 3 matches a show... that's 6-9 matches a month. Ideally, I think we can get 2-3 Brawls out a month and I think they should be posted Sunday Nights. But how do we schedule things to involve the roster, while maintaining the look/feel/fun environment of NFW? I don't want 1-sentence summary shows or 30 person Random Rumbles that list out ordered results. NFW's matches have always helped tell a story and I don't want to lose that. But is this impossible to achieve? Do we need to get a headstart on writing shows ahead of time in some way? Really throw out your ideas on this, if you can.

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And PLEASE -- keep this thread civil and productive. Anything out-of-line, not conducive. I'm going to Gestapo delete right away.

Thanks!

 

[DBrunkGXW]

To clarify, the "EPW rule" is not "one sentence matches".

The EPW rule is, I give matchwriters time to write their matches, then when I decide it's been long enough, I give a drop dead date and it gets short-formed when that date hits. Short formed, to me means a thorough 1-2 detailed paragraphs describing the match without commentary, still getting the storyline over as strongly as possible.

 

[jediPREZ]

To clarify, the "EPW rule" is not "one sentence matches".

The EPW rule is, I give matchwriters time to write their matches, then when I decide it's been long enough, I give a drop dead date and it gets short-formed when that date hits. Short formed, to me means a thorough 1-2 detailed paragraphs describing the match without commentary, still getting the storyline over as strongly as possible.

Thanks for clarifying Brunk. It's still light on what I'd want to do as I want to retain the 'TELEPLAY' format if possible. Have you had any backlash from handlers that RP'd a ****-ton in that scenario?

If you have any ideas on the topics in the thread -- I'd love hear your view/vantage points as well.

 

[DBrunkGXW]

No, because generally speaking, I feel that if people plan on *****ing about match length, they should get off their asses and offer to write one. Otherwise, too bad. If there's still backlash after that, I just don't care.

 

[John Doe]

No, because generally speaking, I feel that if people plan on *****ing about match length, they should get off their asses and offer to write one. Otherwise, too bad. If there's still backlash after that, I just don't care.

I +1 that. I don't really care for long matches, I enjoy the way things are set up now with a small bracket segment then ESEN breakdown. I also find larger matches should get more in depth same with story developed matches, but as Brunk said if people don't want to write them then f-ck 'em.

I personally suck at match writing and don't want to get stoned to death for squashing or making a character look bad, so I don't toe that line. I can barely write a decent RP let alone write a match.

Intros, outros, seggies. Sure.

 

[LQJT86C]

Will add more thoughts later, but real quick: I still think it's very doable to have two Brawls and a Reloaded per month, as long as people don't get CRAZY about their expectations for Reloaded. One thing that hasn't been mentioned, Reloaded as of late has had a lot of pressure involved, both in the RPs and matchwriting, because of the circumstances of the last few shows. We've had a World Title tourney and finals, plus some other really important matches. PPV-esque effort has gone into a lot of this stuff, so I don't think the last couple Reloadeds are an indication of how tough it is to get the show out normally.

So, my suggestion is that we shoot for two BRAWLS and a Reloaded per month, but stay flexible according to the situation. As noted, one show is advertised at a time.

 

[jediPREZ]

Will add more thoughts later, but real quick: I still think it's very doable to have two Brawls and a Reloaded per month, as long as people don't get CRAZY about their expectations for Reloaded. One thing that hasn't been mentioned, Reloaded as of late has had a lot of pressure involved, both in the RPs and matchwriting, because of the circumstances of the last few shows. We've had a World Title tourney and finals, plus some other really important matches. PPV-esque effort has gone into a lot of this stuff, so I don't think the last couple Reloadeds are an indication of how tough it is to get the show out normally.

So, my suggestion is that we shoot for two BRAWLS and a Reloaded per month, but stay flexible according to the situation. As noted, one show is advertised at a time.

Gotcha...

I'm hoping to eliminate IN/OUT threads -- we get 20 people signing up, but don't have the capacity to handle it.

Obviously, we just tried to have all the RP/writing go down at once for 3 shows and you and some others had mentioned you knew that wouldn't work right away

So without using IN/OUT threads, how would you do the pre-planning/match thread posting/matchwriting assigning for what you're proposing above? If we're trying to get all 3 out in a month?

 

[DBrunkGXW]

Why don't you just post the IN/OUT thread and say "first eight/ten/whatever guys who sign up get booked"?

 

[jediPREZ]

Why don't you just post the IN/OUT thread and say "first eight/ten/whatever guys who sign up get booked"?

That's an option I hadn't thought of...thanks Brunk!

My only concern is the same 8 people signing up for every show on a first-come/first-serve basis, but that could be counteracted by not having every show thread use that.

 

[The Great Eye]

I'd say to have the in/out thread for cover both brawls, and then you split the sign-ups between the two, and work out a plan to have Reloaded be pretty much booked from the go.

 

[User Poets]

1) Card schedule.

- I don't think IN/OUT threads are really viable here - Brawl threads are usually pretty much open to "If you post, you get a match." Crash, Reloaded, Supercrash and PPV matches are typically pre-booked. If you need to have open challenges they should be part of the card announcement thread, maybe "Here's what's booked already, you have one or two days to sign something else."

- On that note, I think it's okay to have multiple cards outstanding at once. For example, in this particular group the main event of Reloaded was Impulse vs. Castor for the World Title, you know BFF and I are both sticking around - and if I didn't move 800 miles in the middle of the RP period we would have been able to do some promo stuff for the match across cards. It should be a case by case basis to gradually announce the matches for the next major event, but I always felt that the more hype time, the better.

2) Matchwriting

- I don't think someone who doesn't write matches should get any kind of penalty; let's say MIKEY REN~! came back, well, he's quite burnt out from writing long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long matches for TSC years ago, he should be able to come back. But non-matchwriters should try to contribute elsewhere like you said.

3) Scheduling

- To follow up on Brunk's comments, I don't think he writes any matches for EPW anymore (I could be wrong) except for the short form fill ins when matchwriters flake. You, me, Billy, Biron, and GG are probably the most consistent matchwriters we have, not to offend anyone else but that's just my opinion based on observation - maybe you try to assign main events to one of us and the rest of the matches as they fall, so if something needs to be short formed it's not the big one? I think the five of us can be trusted to write any kind of finish that you need, whether it involves our peeps or not.

 

[Justin]

Somebody might want to actually hold a conversation with Biron.

Last I checked he hated eWrestling and everything about it and didn't want a ****ing thing to do with it.

May wanna clear that up before banking on his match-writing contributions in the near future.

 

[jediPREZ]

I'd like to think he responded earlier because this place is different...

...but I don't want to bank on specific people for long durations of time. I'd rather have a logistical model in place that makes it easier to transition people in/out as the fed changes.

I don't think we can have an IN/OUT thread that diverges into two shows either. I'm hesitant because that sounds too much like what didn't work just now. I see it working for one show and people being quick on the draw to sign up.

I'm wondering if the second show should be reserved first for people planning to write a match with their own character/or by some shocking twist in this game...having an idea to write a match between none of their characters. We've definitely seen an uptick in handler planning matches, so grouping them together with a hard deadline could be feasible... right?

And that show would either be a Brawl or Reloaded depending on the size of that list.

The secondary pool into the second show could be the NFW Challenges Forum as well.

 

[Justin]

I would say you should have separate teams for the shows, for sure. Maybe one person who's job it is to keep a loose tab on progress, who also would have to step in and re-assign a match somehow if someone gets busy.

As for Biron, when I last spoke to him, he seemed on the fence. I've been trying to get him riled up again like he was a few weeks ago before the current delays. I'm not saying he's out, I just don't know if he's in, and I don't want to see us try to make plans to have him down as a go-to guy until we know for sure out of his own mouth.

 

[jediPREZ]

No need to worry about anyone in particular...

As many know, I'm still going to have to get the Sherpa and locate the Gethard cabin as well.

It's a beautiful time to visit the Adirondacks.

 

[User Poets]

The last Talladega match was just sent.

Glad to pinch hit.

 

[Ford]

As the cause for the delay to Darlington, I want to whole heartedly apologize. I have the best intentions, and least amount of time to my plate than I've had in years.

I like quite a few ideas floated about in this thread. I'm here for the long haul, but I don't want to sign up to write a match because I may run into the same situation I ran into when trying to write my Darlington piece(IE: 10-14 hour days, come home, exhausted).

I am down for two Brawls & a Reloaded a month. Hell, I'd be happy with one and one. I don't mind the schedule. The delays can be disheartening to reintegrate yourself into the ongoing story, but it's certainly not the end of the world. If I felt it was, I wouldn't still be here.

Just think of me as an active handler who would like to write matches but most likely won't be able to between say, late August to mid December, and January to May.

 

[User Poets]

The last Talladega match was just sent.

Glad to pinch hit.

Apparently I was wrong - the second to last Talladega match had just been sent. It seems someone was assigned TWO matches... and didn't do either one.

 

[jediPREZ]

Ford -- thanks for the kind words, obviously this has happened to all of us and I respect that you can't write a match. I look to show intros/segs as somewhere you can contribute. Hell, I've written some with Harmen myself!

The schedule is going to start at two shows per cycle. I think the 3rd show is a bit dangerous to plan for and I'd rather see us get through 2 per cycle consistently before attempting something we've never been able to do.

 

[jediPREZ]

What's everyone's feelings on BRAWL/RELOADED going ALL-TELEPLAY and being submitted as such...

...and maybe creating a separate show title for narrative recaps? (NFW DISPATCH, On the Road w/ NFW, something like that)

Just from a style/piecemeal perspective, it's much easier to work in one format. And may create more matchwriter opportunities since some people can't do TELEPLAY and prefer narrative.