Roleplaying Guidelines

[vastrix]

My quiet protest seemed to have been buried in the Bracket 1 Reaction thread.

It is this. Were guidelines for roleplaying actually posted as in typed up someplace on this board that I can see? I glanced through things and did not see any such thing posted on the board.

If it was done on a podcast, my computer doesn't do audio or streaming very well. I managed to get it to cooperate so I could listen to the Judges talk about how they felt the first Bracket played out.

I mean really? Suspension of Disbelief and not murdering someone? How many times has something similar been done on the television? Wrestlers buried alive? Wrestlers beat up and left for dead in the wilderness?

Yes, they show up alive in a later show, but this is a roleplay so we really don't have "another show" to go back to show the person alive (or not as the case may be).

Now I don't mind losing to superior roleplays as Chad Allen did really good in his, gave me the chills reading it, but I do not like losing because "Oh his character murdered someone in a fantasy setting" so lets negate everything else he wrote for this.

 

[MikeyMassacre]

Hey, man, I'm not a judge or anything, so my word is meaningless, but: I think there is a general consensus about murder in fantasy wrestling, at least where I've ever played, which is not a negligible sample size.

Your larger point--that there should be guidelines posted--is not outlandish. I am not sure I agree, but it is not unreasonable.

But murder in fantasy wrestling, when you make it seem real... is weird.

Just my two cents.

 

[The Great Eye]

They were stated on the podcast, and there had been talk about doing a 'meet the judges' posting on the forums, but this stuff didn't come to pass. Since I am a judge in this tournament I will now post my standards.

DON'T

Do anything illegal or unrealistic. Don't kill people, don't have super powers, don't be a criminal mastermind who works for a shadow cabal that rules the world, you are a pro wrestler be a pro wrestler.

DO

Hype Ultratitle, hype the match, bring up why you want to win this thing and that winning it matters to you, talk about your opponent, if you know him or don't know him, tell me your thoughts about the match and why you feel like you'll win.

I don't care how you write this (Narrative Vs script) I just want something that would engage the fictional crowd and make them want to buy a ticket to see you and your opponent slug it out, I just want the major factor in your Rp being "I'm in a big tournament, and my next match is a big match." Get me pumped up to see your guy stomp the other guy's head in, however you can do that, that's what matters to me.

 

[vastrix]

And that is my point exactly. Guidelines and expectations were on a podcast that I never heard.
These elements of my character (and indeed many of my characters over the years) have been part of my roleplays for years without complaint (ok I think someone complained once about nudity in some obscure fed when I was running a abused female wrestler/abuser manager gimmick), but otherwise I never had any problems.

 

[The Great Eye]

All I can say for that is that I'm sorry, and that I wish there had been better judge/handler communication for the whole tournament.

 

[vastrix]

That is all I can ask for. Thank you.

I knew I should have went with my playboy character, but really how many son of a corporate ceo with lots of children and the discipline of a teenage are there? Lots? I mean we already have Tony Stark on the big screen now

 

[Chad]

And that is my point exactly. Guidelines and expectations were on a podcast that I never heard.
These elements of my character (and indeed many of my characters over the years) have been part of my roleplays for years without complaint (ok I think someone complained once about nudity in some obscure fed when I was running a abused female wrestler/abuser manager gimmick), but otherwise I never had any problems.

There has been a huge amount of communication about the tournament, the format, who the judges are and communication about what they are looking for. It hasn't all been formal and it hasn't all been on these forums (for example, the podcast), but it's been there.

In this specific case, two of the judges voted overwhelmingly against Tarrasque because of the "killing" and two other voted it much closer.

There are 11 or so judges involved in this. Their names and backgrounds were posted on the forum. Given the diversity, participants should assume that there are differing views in what is "good," what style might "speak" to them more, and what may play better. Tarrasque's approach split the judges. Ryan's Youtube link sunk his ship. Zero/Hollywood led to very close scoring, but ultimately went to Zero 3-1. In Bracket 2 I can tell you that there are several decisions that are even closer.

The podcast included a handful of the judges who gave their thoughts, including the ones Stanton has mentioned. Other judges posted some of their comments in threads on the board. One gave his comments on the EFed Guerillas podcast. So there have been plenty of occasions to be able to get more information.

That said, I have NOT suggested that there are specific parameters that immediately disqualify people or that the judges MUST take into consideration. The judges are welcome to bring their differing views, and then whoever gets the most votes, wins. It's that simple. There has not been a case of where the voting was "wrong" -- the voting is what it is. Just because one judge values an element more highly, doesn't mean that his view wins the day.

So there you go. Hope that helps and hope that despite your loss, things were fun. Appreciate your time and energy in competing. I think Tarrasque should go up against Bloodhunt on the final card -- that would be a fun matchup.

 

[vastrix]

That sounds awesome. And I have just gotten my audio to cooperate so I am now finally able to listen to podcats though mind my time is limited to actually listen.

 

[Justin]

I have to ask:

Why does this keep devolving into a Promo vs Narrative argument?

Quite a few of us posted promos in the narrative format. Hell, I personally wrote in both styles.

I think the issue at hand is Zero ignored the ULTRATITLE and his opponent almost completely and that drove the sand up quite a few people's vaginas, especially when the voting came down the way it did. Personally, I think I've been privy to some further information about the judging that I'm going to withhold for the greater good, but chalk me into the column of people who think that the judges should at least have the sack to back up their voting if they're in fact going to have a stake in the outcome of this tournament.

That said, I'm old-hat at this inter-promotional thing, and a lot of you are not. This is just how it goes, and I don't expect for mine or anyone else's opinion posted on this forum to even be considered, much less put into actions. If anybody's paying attention (which I doubt) I haven't posted a lot of (or any) opinions about the event so far, and there's a good reason for that.

Like I said, old-hat.

And y'all niggas call me Angry​...

 

[LQJT86C]

+1,000

And on a side note, are you trying to out N-word Eastwood?

I have to ask:

Why does this keep devolving into a Promo vs Narrative argument?

Quite a few of us posted promos in the narrative format. Hell, I personally wrote in both styles.

I think the issue at hand is Zero ignored the ULTRATITLE and his opponent almost completely and that drove the sand up quite a few people's vaginas, especially when the voting came down the way it did. Personally, I think I've been privy to some further information about the judging that I'm going to withhold for the greater good, but chalk me into the column of people who think that the judges should at least have the sack to back up their voting if they're in fact going to have a stake in the outcome of this tournament.

That said, I'm old-hat at this inter-promotional thing, and a lot of you are not. This is just how it goes, and I don't expect for mine or anyone else's opinion posted on this forum to even be considered, much less put into actions. If anybody's paying attention (which I doubt) I haven't posted a lot of (or any) opinions about the event so far, and there's a good reason for that.

Like I said, old-hat.

And y'all niggas call me Angry​...

 

[Justin]

I heard it was okay if you change "er" to "a" and only say it if nobody else is around.

 

[The Great Eye]

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I think the issue at hand is Zero ignored the ULTRATITLE and his opponent almost completely

That's exactly the issue for me.

 

[Justin]

See?

I'm a bridge-builder.

I'm not that angry at all.

 

[The Great Eye]

But you do use racist slurs.

 

[Justin]

I wasn't slurring, I haven't had anything to drink.